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Wayne, I love you! Your sis, Jam
Sep 29, 2010 08:02 AM
Well, why show up to defend the actions which have no defense? I guess there was no secret excuse as another poster suggested... how shocking!!! LOL I wonder what happened- I'm sure the owner or renter won?
Sep 28, 2010 06:29 PM
Heard from a little birdie at the courthouse today that someone sued the Vicks yesterday. They did not show up and neither did their lawyer. They've hid their money pretty well. Vick started moving ownership of their properties last Jan. Preparing for what he did in June I guess...
Sep 28, 2010 05:31 PM
It's pretty bad when peoplw will talk sh** about someone just cause they are upset or whatever the reason, KATIE is not a snitch I know this for fact but I also know who posted the lie, and you are the one who needs to just cut the crap already before i spill to everyone your address and let them know who you are and i don't think your son likes you smoking that dope with him around so shut up and stop spreading lies , Katie is not a snitch nice try though juanesia u dumb bimbo
Sep 27, 2010 06:52 PM
We are previous cabin owners who had their cabins managed by Fontaine's over the years. Thank goodness we sold our last cabin about 4 years ago to use the money for the kids college. I truly feel for the owners and renters that either have no one to manage their cabin or who have rented a cabin, paid a deposit and are now out a good chunk of cash. This sucks! We've rented from Fonatine's many times over the years. I want to clarify that the Vicks bought the rental business from Annie Fontaine about 6 years ago. Annie and her team were great to rent from. Always positive, honest and willing to help. As owners we were sorry to see her sell the business because she was such a good person. We didn't have any bad dealings with the Vicks while we were owners, but I hate to see Annie's name tarnished because two people decided to NOT do the right thing. I hope justice comes to them.....soon!
Sep 27, 2010 04:58 PM
relax the lompoc police dept as well as all units are under investigation as we speak..
Sep 25, 2010 09:38 PM
I got mad love for my boy Wayne. Just an unfortunate sitatuation to get caught up in for real. Its still all love homie and it will never change. Hold ya head and I pray everything works out for the best my brotha. Ya homie on the West Coast Will.
Sep 21, 2010 12:16 PM
I got a call a few weeks ago from the local DA that I had left a message for. He said there was nothing he could do unless charges were brought against the Vick's. I explained my situation to him and he said he would do some research and talk to the detective to find out why they were unable to locate the Vick's. I am sure that was another waste of time! On a side note I noticed on Libby Self Vick's Facebook page she has numerous posts about being a christian and one that said "With God, ALL things are possible!! " Amazing how many BAD people profess to be christians! Libby and Robert, you have another Page in your book to answer to! posted on Sep 17 2010 06:02:10 AM
Sep 18, 2010 09:49 PM
Tell the D.A. that they could not find the Vicks because they did not go looking!!! They were here three weeks ago. That's a fact. Det Hodges said this is not a crime, so why would she go looking for them?
Sep 18, 2010 09:48 PM
Don't stop calling the DA or Det. Hodges! Don't feel it's a waste of time, the only waste of our time will be if we stop- then everything previous to stopping would have been a waste. The DA is a DA! and has the power to press charges. I hear the Vicks are out of town, but before a few weeks ago, people were seeing them all over- driving here and there and not sorry at all. What you say is true about some people thinking they've done nothing wrong and God will be help them. They have stated to people that they have worked hard all their lives and deserve our money~ they are just old spoiled children, this is what happens when you spoil children people- the entitlement mentality does not disappear magically at age 18. So keep calling and asking WHY WHY WHY can't you do anything? Truly the squeaking wheel gets the grease. Law enforcement will always have new crimes to deal with, so if you stop calling you will be forgotten. I won't stop- let's back each other up by not stopping! Even if there are just a couple of us... we just want our money. Why should I have to fight or spend more money to hire a lawyer to get what is mine? Don't give up my friend! Keep calling or it's all been a waste! I'll keep calling until I hear proof of why this is not a crime...
Sep 18, 2010 08:42 PM
Wel I had never been to Tn. This would have been my family's first trip there and our first vacation in 3 years. It didn't happen and now I have accepted the fact that I will never visit that area and give them any more of my money. I just could not bring myself to hand over a deposit to anyone up there. I just could not do it! I know there are good people there but you know the old saying "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!"
Sep 17, 2010 06:09 AM
I got a call a few weeks ago from the local DA that I had left a message for. He said there was nothing he could do unless charges were brought against the Vick's. I explained my situation to him and he said he would do some research and talk to the detective to find out why they were unable to locate the Vick's. I am sure that was another waste of time! On a side note I noticed on Libby Self Vick's Facebook page she has numerous posts about being a christian and one that said "With God, ALL things are possible!! " Amazing how many BAD people frofess to be christians! Libby and Robert, you have another Page in your book to answer to!
Sep 17, 2010 06:02 AM
To Mr. or Mrs. know it all. This was my research: The F(&^$% Vick's are theives that kept my money and didn't give me the cabin I rented! That is a fact! No rumor or story someone told me in a phone conversation! So, go back and let Robert Vick blow some more smoke up you butt about how someone is out to get him. I know better and you must not be too bright or you would too!
Sep 17, 2010 05:50 AM
Libby??? Are you there? Please answer the posts...
Sep 16, 2010 07:40 PM
I have been a Owner in Cobbly Nob since 1996 and have (2) Excellant Homes with Greenbriar Valley! They have always been above board.honest, and work well with Owners and clients!!! They have probably 75 Quality Properties and All of their Staff does a Great Job!You should check them out for Quality Rentals ! I also, am aware of the Problems with some of the Agents of other Rental Agents that have been in the past , and some of those above comments were correct! Greenbriar Valley is one of the Top Rental Agency and Real Estate Office , especially for Cobbly Nob! There has never been any problems with them, as long as I have done Business with them!People should give them a try for Quality Rentals!!!
Sep 15, 2010 08:29 AM
Okay,,,,nothing but the truth in the form of facts has come out in the last few posts. So where are the derogatory comments now? OH,,,I mean negative in case you need it translated, name caller!!!
Sep 14, 2010 12:53 PM
Posting that is three posts up from this one is 100% accurate. I have been involved with the mountain since 1986. I have owned up to 5 houses at one time and can assure you, I know all parties. The Sharps are guilty of exactly what has been mentioned, check the Tax roll and you will see how many personal houses they own. The Fontaines started out with good intentions but got caught up in the greed and the falling economy. The actions they took were illegal and and intentional. I personally know the good,bad and ugly of this nice peaceful part of paradise.
Sep 14, 2010 11:14 AM
Posting that is two posts up from this one is 100% accurate. I have been involved with the mountain since 1986. I have owned up to 5 houses at one time and can assure you, I know all parties. The Sharps are guilty of exactly what has been mentioned, check the Tax roll and you will see how many personal houses they own. The Fontaines started out with good intentions but got caught up in the greed and the falling economy. The actions they took were illegal and and intentional. I personally know the good,bad and ugly of this nice peaceful part of paradise.
Sep 14, 2010 11:13 AM
It is great to hear the truth from an owner who has fought two of the (QUOTE) GOOD GUYS. I know for a fact that the storm drive-by happened. Now, refute that name caller!!!!!!! That is one of the reasons that Mrs. Fontaine (previous owner of Fontaine Cabin Rentals who sold the business to the VICKS) removed her cabins from the Vicks and is renting on her own. She is actually making money renting NOW!! These are facts, not rumors.
Sep 14, 2010 09:42 AM
It is great to hear the truth from an owner who has fought two of the (QUOTE) GOOD GUYS. I know for a fact that the storm drive-by happened. Now, refute that name caller!!!!!!! That is one of the reasons that Mrs. Fontaine (previous owner of Fontaine Cabin Rentals who sold the business to the VICKS) removed her cabins from the Vicks and is renting on her own. She is actually making money renting NOW!! These are facts, not rumors.
Sep 14, 2010 05:28 AM
Ok, I cannot sit back and read these posts and not address some of the issues brought up. I had my cabin with Cobbly Nob for years and then with Fontaine Cabin Rentals. When Doug took over Cobbly Nob my cabin rentals dropped dramatically. I had friends call their office to recommend a cabin (describing mine perfectly) to rent. They always recommended the same cabins over and over. My cabin is a new cabin that is very well maintained, but they never mentioned mine. I found out the cabins they were pushing belonged to Cobbly Nob or people tied to them. After moving to Fontaine, I found out the same thing was occurring. I would go on their website and the cabins that were renting were older and out dated while mine stayed empty. I wonder who those belonged to? Yes, you guessed it. I was very unhappy with Fontaine just like I was with Cobbly Nob. Everytime there was a storm, I was charged 10.00 for someone from Fontaine to drive up the mountain and check for storm damage. Just imagine, with 30 cabins, you can make 300.00 everytime there is a heavy rain. (and in Gatlinburg that is quite often) I could go on and on but I think you understand what I mean. I was not the only cabin owner who was unhappy with them. These are not rumors, but true statements. I have not heard from any person who rented from Fontaine that received their money back.....so you can take up for these companies and people all you want, but many of us know the truth. and in case you were wondering....i did not move my cabin to Pioneer.
Sep 13, 2010 04:19 PM
and in case you were wondering....i did not move my cabin to Pioneer.
Sep 13, 2010 04:15 PM
Ok, I cannot sit back and read these posts and not address some of the issues brought up. I had my cabin with Cobbly Nob for years and then with Fontaine Cabin Rentals. When Doug took over Cobbly Nob my cabin rentals dropped dramatically. I had friends call their office to recommend a cabin (describing mine perfectly) to rent. They always recommended the same cabins over and over. My cabin is a new cabin that is very well maintained, but they never mentioned mine. I found out the cabins they were pushing belonged to Cobbly Nob or people tied to them. After moving to Fontaine, I found out the same thing was occurring. I would go on their website and the cabins that were renting were older and out dated while mine stayed empty. I wonder who those belonged to? Yes, you guessed it. I was very unhappy with Fontaine just like I was with Cobbly Nob. Everytime there was a storm, I was charged 10.00 for someone from Fontaine to drive up the mountain and check for storm damage. Just imagine, with 30 cabins, you can make 300.00 everytime there is a heavy rain. (and in Gatlinburg that is quite often) I could go on and on but I think you understand what I mean. I was not the only cabin owner who was unhappy with them. These are not rumors, but true statements. I have not heard from any person who rented from Fontaine that received their money back.....so you can take up for these companies and people all you want, but many of us know the truth.
Sep 13, 2010 04:10 PM
Libby, are you there????
Sep 13, 2010 09:33 AM
The only ones who have profitted from this fiASSco are the Vicks. The many people who have not had their deposits returned are the ones who have lost. It is not fair that the Vicks can keep money for a service not rendered due to the wording of the rental contract. Plus how many people were not able to enjoy their vacation since they had trusted Libby Vick and gave her, in good faith, their credit card numbers to place a deposit on the cabin they chose. Then minus that money, they did not have enough to rent another cabin or get a hotel room and still vacation in the Gatlinburg area. According to Tennessee state law. the rental cabin company reserves the right to substitute properties, provide alternative lodging or cancel reservation if for any reason beyond our control the property becomes unavailable. If cancelled, a full refund of the deposit will be made. Upon refund, all contractual rights and obligations are released. So how much clearer can that be one who calls names so easily behind your smoking mirror.
Sep 13, 2010 07:55 AM
LIBBY??? ARE YOU THERE?
Sep 12, 2010 05:14 PM
File your complaints with TREC. Vick will respond because it's his real estate license in jeopardy. Seems that is the only thing he responds to. File a CC dispute with your bank too. Many of us are or were past the cut-off time to file but due to the circumstances, that even my bank acknowledged, the banks may be more willing to go ahead and let your file your dispute. I have gotten my money back and so have a couple of other people I know. The Vicks evidently didn't even respond to my bank once I launched the dispute. At any rate, do not allow yourselves to be total Vicktoms. Take action on your own accord if you have not yet. File a complaint with the TREC. Be detailed and accurate. And file a CC dispute with your bank.
Sep 11, 2010 08:35 AM
File your complaints with TREC. Vick will respond because it's his real estate license in jeopardy. Seems that is the only thing he responds to. File a CC dispute with your bank too. Many of us are or were past the cut-off time to file but due to the circumstances, that even my bank acknowledged, the banks may be more willing to go ahead and let your file your disput. I have gotten my money back and so have a couple of other people I know. The Vicks evidently didn't even respond to my bank once I launched the dispute. At any rate, do not allow yourselves to be total Vicktoms. Take action on your own accord if you have not yet. File a complaint with the TREC. Be detailed and accurate. And file a CC dispute with your bank.
Sep 11, 2010 08:33 AM
I had no idea that asking for my money back and requesting a logical answer for why the Vicks won't return telephone calls in months makes me a Jack***??? Nice, very nice...
Sep 10, 2010 08:57 PM
WOW!... very curious to learn what it is that warrants hundreds of peoples money. Do tell, please
Sep 10, 2010 05:02 PM
"There are very few “Good Guys" left in this business and the Vicks are some of the best." Well, that is news to me- I thought they were out of the business, that's what their website says anyway. But I guess you know many many things we don't. So my reservations for Dec. are still good? Great! I'll tell the wife our 25 anniversary trip is back on!
Sep 10, 2010 03:17 PM
When is this great unveiling of the truth scheduled? I don't want to miss it!
Sep 10, 2010 03:11 PM
That's nice calling us JackAsses, what when I gave my credit card- there was something in an agreement that I did not sign over the phone that says if the owner has a loss, they can keep my money without services? Whatever!!!! I guess thing are done a little different there...
Sep 10, 2010 03:09 PM
"I will do everything within my power to shed light on the real villian and snake. And I don't just talk I'll hard evidence to back up my words as always. posted on Sep 05 2010 11:49:59 AM" So if you know who the real Villian(sp) and snake is and could save these good people from wrong- why won't you just do it?
Sep 10, 2010 03:04 PM
Why did they not share the truth with the newspaper- what in the world would their loss have to do with us. I'm sorry if they have illness or death around them, but really why does that mean strangers should give them money and have sympathy for them when they won't explain themselves?????????????????? If you've read all the documents then you must be their lawyer, former employee, or close somehow to the business. Why would you not share what you know, if it will provide a valid answer for why they will not speak with anyone? Are you getting a kick out of our pain? You have no idea what our lives are like, and what that money means to our families survival. Have a nice weekend. Signed Jack*** II
Sep 10, 2010 02:59 PM
FRIEND OF VICKS- "ONE OF THE GOOD ONES": YES LOST AND CLUELESS COVERS IT WELL. LOST WITHOUT MY $1800, CLUELESS AS TO WHERE IT IS AND WHY VICK WON'T RETURN TELEPHONE CALLS.... YOU SEEM TO TEASE US THAT YOU HAVE THE ANSWERS, BUT WON'T SHARE. PLEASE POUR MORE SALT IN MY WOUND. SINCERELY, JACK***
Sep 10, 2010 02:50 PM
o.k....So w h y won't they return telephone calls? Calling me a jack***? You actually don't answer anything or really state anything. To "know" what their losses are you must be close to them or know someone who is- (wait I'm sure you are because you would not listen to anyone else)So again, why won't they share with us, the police, TREC, my lawyer- the reason that you are privy to, that you can't wait for us Jackasses to find out and rub our faces in. If having a "tremendous loss" entitles one to MY money- I must owe so many in this world more than I have! That Sucks!!! I had no idea I was in such debt. What should I pay my friend who just lost her twins to a drunk driver? You may want to share with my lawyer what is in my documents...I may not have the case she thinks I do! Any information would be helpful. Thank You for your time. God Bless you for keeping us informed.
Sep 10, 2010 02:43 PM
o.k....So w h y won't they return telephone calls? Calling me a jack***? You actually don't answer anything or really state anything. To "know" what their losses are you must be close to them or know someone who is- (wait I'm sure you are because you would not listen to anyone else)So again, why won't they share with us, the police, TREC, my lawyer- the reason that you are privy to, that you can't wait for us Jackasses to find out and rub our faces in. If having a "tremendous loss" entitles one to MY money- I must owe so many in this world more than I have! That Sucks!!! I had no idea I was in such debt. What should I pay my friend who just lost her twins to a drunk driver? You may want to share with my lawyer what is in my documents...I may not have the case she thinks I do! Any information would be helpful. Thank You for your time. God Bless you for keeping us informed.
Sep 10, 2010 02:40 PM
Here is my entire post- Oops… big deal… I made some grammatical errors in my earlier post. I was livid when I read the despicable, foolish rubbish on this site. I stated the truth and that is all that is important. Here are a few more facts: I am not Robert or Libby Vick nor am related to The Vicks. I have no desire to ask Doug Sharp anything or listen to what “he thinks he knows!" I am not a fan of “a little birdie told me BS." Hard core, fact based, evidence will always triumph over BS. And fact based evidence is all that I am interested in pursuing. I will not repeat the vile rumors about The Sharps, their company or anyone else. I was stating that, if you did your homework you would know, the same type of lies involving bankruptcy, character, etc., were being told, not long ago, about The Sharps and their company. If you want know, just ask around…. there appears to be an overabundance of people willing to shares lies and innuendo. You are entitled to be jackasses. If any of you really wanted the truth you would stop repeating and sharing the vile garbage that is floating around and do your homework. Do any of you actually know the laws governing advance deposits for overnight rental companies in TN? It is very evident from your post that you are lost and clueless. I am sure Peggy, Doug and “others" just forgot to mention what they are when they were advising you the on The Vicks, the houses and “the situation." We all know how they like to be helpful so surely they would be happy to share them with you. Just ask them how it is outlined in the guest terms and conditions for their companies. I have read each document and I think they'll remember the wording. Or maybe you could do some research and find out the truth instead of relying on rumors. If you actually did your homework you would know that Fontaine Cabin Rental's closing is truly a tragic loss to everyone. There are very few “Good Guys" left in this business and the Vicks are some of the best. If you did your homework you would know, The Vicks are not the villains and they are also experiencing a tremendous loss. I am looking forward to the truth coming out and this horrible ordeal being put to rest. Well enjoy your sordid site and best wishes to all the innocents. It really is unfortunate that so many innocent people are caught up in the web of deception which was created by the ones who will profit most from the circumstances.
Sep 09, 2010 09:52 AM
Here is the entire post- Oops… big deal… I made some grammatical errors in my earlier post. I was livid when I read the despicable, foolish rubbish on this site. I stated the truth and that is all that is important. Here are a few more facts: I am not Robert or Libby Vick nor am related to The Vicks. I have no desire to ask Doug Sharp anything or listen to what “he thinks he knows!" I am not a fan of “a little birdie told me BS." Hard core, fact based, evidence will always triumph over BS. And fact based evidence is all that I am interested in pursuing. I will not repeat the vile rumors about The Sharps, their company or anyone else. I was stating that, if you did your homework you would know, the same type of lies involving bankruptcy, character, etc., were being told, not long ago, about The Sharps and their company. If you want know, just ask around…. there appears to be an overabundance of people willing to shares lies and innuendo. You are entitled to be jackasses. If any of you really wanted the truth you would stop repeating and sharing the vile garbage that is floating around and do your homework. Do any of you actually know the laws governing advance deposits for overnight rental companies in TN? It is very evident from your post that you are lost and clueless. I am sure Peggy, Doug and “others" just forgot to mention what they are when they were advising you the on The Vicks, the houses and “the situation." We all know how they like to be helpful so surely they would be happy to share them with you. Just ask them how it is outlined in the guest terms and conditions for their companies. I have read each document and I think they'll remember the wording. Or maybe you could do some research and find out the truth instead of relying on rumors. If you actually did your homework you would know that Fontaine Cabin Rental's closing is truly a tragic loss to everyone. There are very few “Good Guys" left in this business and the Vicks are some of the best. If you did your homework you would know, The Vicks are not the villains and they are also experiencing a tremendous loss. I am looking forward to the truth coming out and this horrible ordeal being put to rest. Well enjoy your sordid site and best wishes to all the innocents. It really is unfortunate that so many innocent people are caught up in the web of deception which was created by the ones who will profit most from the circumstances.
Sep 09, 2010 09:48 AM
It is really unfortunate that so many innocent people are caught up in the web of deception which was created by the ones who will profit most from the circumstances.
Sep 08, 2010 08:44 PM
Evidently, Robert responds to TREC complaints in a somewhat timely fashion, more so than inquiries as to his business dealings, etc. I suspect it's because TREC has control over his real estate license and that's really all he cares about at this point. The fact remains that he did not do what he indicated he would for me and he would not return my inquiries further. I just let my bank handle it; and I have received all my funds back to-date since they couldn't even get the Vicks to respond to the dispute I filed with my CC. THAT tells you how dedicated they are to their clients.
Sep 08, 2010 08:57 AM
To the former employee: Would you be willing to call Det. Hodges and tell her what you wrote here?
Sep 08, 2010 08:22 AM
Evidently, Robert responds to TREC complaints in a somewhat timely fashion, more so than inquiries as to his business dealings, etc. I suspect it's because TREC has control over his real estate license and that's really all he cares about at this point. The fact remains that he did not do what he indicated he would for me and he would not return my inquiries further. I just let my bank handle it; and I have received all my funds back to-date since they couldn't even get the Vicks to respond to the dispute I filed with my CC. THAT tells you how dedicated they are to their clients.
Sep 08, 2010 07:18 AM
I am a former employee of the Vicks. I was working for them when they closed down & they knew that were going to close down. They did not go about it the right way. I was off on the day they closed down & they didnt even have the courtesy to call me about losing my job until the following day. And then it wasnt even Libby that called, and she was the owner of the company & our boss. They had to know they were closing down before June 16th, because I received my check by mail on Thursday the 17th. (I received my check before I got the phone call.) We also had cabins owners tell us that they were taking their cabins off our rental programs & we were told to continue to take reservations no matter what the owner said. So basically they continued to take money for the reservations on our 3 nicest houses, which were our most rented houses, even though the home owners told us not to. I just wanted everyone to know how the Vicks truely are, & I'm just afraid that people will not receive their money back. I'm not a disgruntled employee, I am just a disapointed employee
Sep 07, 2010 03:49 PM
Oh, now it's more than obvious that either Robert or Libby made that disgruntled posting on Saturday directing fault to their former employee. (without actually using her name) but let me tell you all this. I own a business, not at all related to the cabin rental business. Robert and Libby never paid their bill to me for the work I did for them, and they avoided and avoided any and all contact with me. to this day (almost 2 years later) they STILL haven't paid their bill, which they rightfully owe. So, basically, the Vicks need to go look in their "smoking mirror" (which they aren't even smart enough to know its "smoke AND mirrors". and see who is the real cause of their problems. Typical for people like this, wanting to lay blame anywhere but where it should be placed, directly at their door. Wonder if their related to Sterling Webb (Sterling Springs)?
Sep 07, 2010 03:24 PM
Oh, now it's more than obvious that either Robert or Libby made that disgruntled posting on Saturday directing fault to their former employee. (without actually using her name) but let me tell you all this. I own a business, not at all related to the cabin rental business. Robert and Libby never paid their bill to me for the work I did for them, and they avoided and avoided any and all contact with me. to this day (almost 2 years later) they STILL haven't paid their bill, which they rightfully owe. So, basically, the Vicks need to go look in their "smoking mirror" (which they aren't even smart enough to know its "smoke AND mirrors". and see who is the real cause of their problems. Typical for people like this, wanting to lay blame anywhere but where it should be placed, directly at their door. Wonder if their related to Sterling Webb (Sterling Springs)?
Sep 07, 2010 01:35 PM
Has anyone seen Mr. Vick recently?
Sep 07, 2010 11:30 AM
It would be real easy to end this choas. Just give back the money that so many entrusted you with as a deposit for a cabin. It is just that easy. Write checks to those whose money you have and everyone will be satisfied. It's just that EASY!!!
Sep 07, 2010 09:33 AM
And I don't just talk I'll hard evidence to back up my words as always. ??????????????
Sep 07, 2010 05:15 AM
doesn't seem to be a big deal these days :(
Sep 06, 2010 08:38 PM
The above posting is without merit. Provide your proof Mr.& Mrs. Vick.
Sep 06, 2010 10:27 AM
The above posting is without merit.
Sep 06, 2010 10:18 AM
I like the mormons. Ok, maybe not all the people in the religion. But, the Religion itself is very good and has awesome values. The teachings are only for good and they don't hurt anyone. But, they help all!!
Sep 05, 2010 09:32 AM
Chuck and his family moved to Jackson, they now own a home. His site is up and it's totally wonderful what Rachel posted about how they came to own a home. God's Way by their obedience to Him.
Sep 04, 2010 08:02 PM
So would someone tell us where is Bobby Wright, he was in town this summer? I'll go where Bobby is because he can be trusted to teach God's word if he is pastoring somewhere here. Would love to hear him again after all I shared my thoughts with God that Bobby's needs to be the Pastor even if its not at the Gathering. God only moved Bobby on to a Better place!
Sep 04, 2010 07:46 PM
Has anyone seen the Vicks???
Sep 04, 2010 04:47 PM
Wow~ I hope someone answers that last post. The person at the district attorney's office said to call him in a couple of weeks again. Det. Hodges is still looking into everything he stated.
Sep 02, 2010 06:28 PM
good luck gene wolfenbarger should open the churches accounting to the church, and that of the Lords child since we are the ones who supplied the money. But good luck with that. gene doesnt answer to anyone.
Sep 02, 2010 01:43 PM
Trust the Man? Never I would not trust one thing he touches in ministry without a line item accounting of the finances. and then you need to question everything... because he puts the flyers and postcards you get in the mail box 3 times a month under MISSIONS. yeah right, that is marketing. God adds people to HIS church. and to consider your marketing mission work? PLEASE!
Sep 02, 2010 01:41 PM
probably never will, too much money went to the wrong things. ask Gene how much he paid his buddies from your donations.
Sep 02, 2010 01:12 PM
Has anyone seen Robert Vick lately? I know someone who is coming to Gatlinburg that wants to go to his house and have a talk with him. A serious talk.
Sep 01, 2010 05:21 AM
What a shame. Whem Mrs. Fontaine owned this enterprise, it was always a class act. Shame on these people. Hopefully justice will be served.
Aug 27, 2010 08:22 AM
RC - you're absolutely right. That's exactlly what happens there. If you really pay close attention to all of the fund raising at The Gathering in Sevierville done by Gene Wolfenbarger you will see that there's never a detailed accounting of the funds distributed after the event. As a matter of fact, there's never been a detailed accounting of the funds for ANYTHING. That's what the problem is and that's why I left.
Aug 22, 2010 06:37 AM
This is infuriating. They have enough money to run around the country while they won't give back the deposits to the renters they scammed. I am so disappointed in the state of Tennessee and Sevier County for allowing this to happen without any justice for those VICKtims.
Aug 19, 2010 06:58 AM
602 Indiana Ave. & 624 Indiana Ave. are lying snitches, they called me bad names then called the police on me. This happened at 6:23 am on 8/18/2010
Aug 18, 2010 07:30 AM
Amen to that last post ! I attended this past Sunday second service and the church was the fullest I've saw it all summer. I think we all go for the Lord but when Gene talked Slaves this past weekend you could have heard a pin drop.I know he's got to be reading these blogs and thinks hes still the one that knows more than we do. I go for God and my savior and I know who is in control of me. That's all you need to know is its you and God.
Aug 17, 2010 08:53 AM
It has been almost a year and never has the church addressed the financial concerns of it's members. Sounds like they care about the people. I have never met another pastor that you have to talk to everyone else but he wont talk to you. He doesn't have time for his people, he doesn't care about anything other than your tithe and where it has been if you were not there. The Gathering Church is not about people, no where else can you email and call staff and have them ignore you and tell you repeated that they forgot, you do not forget about people if you are about THEM. truth is they are on eggshells constantly worrying about Gene Wolfenbarger. Gene Wolfenbarger is an overbearing man who demands things done for him. all this about a salary and Italian loafers, expensive cars and pools? Jesus walked as a humble man. A true servant, not demanding to be served. Jesus said i do not have a place to lay my head and Gene Wolfenbarger brags about how expensive his stuff is. Think about who Jesus was and is, is that anything like the pastor at the Gathering church in Sevierville? I think no. Is Gene wolfenbarger a man that resembles Jesus, I think no. Be careful following a man like that because you will become like what you follow. Please Dear God let them see the light before we have a community or narcissistic Gene Wolfenbargers walking around Sevierville.
Aug 14, 2010 02:05 PM
Vick's own property in Florida, parents live in CA.
Aug 14, 2010 10:17 AM
This is deff true...id know..
Aug 14, 2010 12:17 AM
I was among the first group of worshippers at the Gathing in 2000. Actually, my family served on Gene's staff. After reading your most recent comments, I can tell you all that you are on track with this man. He is all about money, all about show. Those who were not his "yes" men in 2000, did not stay at the church for any length of time. And it is definitely "Gene's church." It was that way then and I have no doubts that it's the same way now. His sermons revolved around how wealthy his wife's family was, his mama, his coon dogs, and how he knew Jerry Falwell. God's people, beware!!!
Aug 13, 2010 01:44 PM
Pioneer Rental Management is being run honestly, by Peggy. I have 2 homes with her and one of them is considered to be one of the best on the mountain.
Aug 12, 2010 12:48 PM
You only mentioned Warren and Bobby - both great guys but what about Seth, Joey, Scott, Guy, and Chuck? It's kind of weird to have that much turnover when 'great things are happening at the gathering'. Beware if you are planning on making them your 'church family'. Doesn't it all just seem weird? I'd love to know more about what's going on.
Aug 12, 2010 05:41 AM
I emailed the GATHERING about Bobby. I said that my wife and I had not seen Bobby for most of the summer and we were wondering about him. The answer was from Pastor DavidS. He stated that he would love to meet me and discuss this matter. WELL, this sounds mysterious. What is wrong with a simple answer??? My inference is that Bobby got tired of being a "Yes" man and left. And just like Warren, the Gathering will have a line to give me about how Bobby went to other endeavors led by God.
Aug 12, 2010 05:22 AM
Bah, don't worry about them. My guess is that, for most of us, whoever offers the best price with a view will get the most business. Then if the amenities and customer service are good we, the customers, will keep coming back. I hope ALL the rental companies will remember that.
Aug 11, 2010 07:31 AM
I was on the inside and I don't know if that is true or not. The 'bylaws' are not talked about nor were they ever 'voted on'. The entire management team is made up ONLY of people that will agree with Gene that HE alone is God's man to run this church and that HE deserves to be treated and compensated as the 'annointed and appointed one'. There are no votes to change anything because it is set up as led by one man. He will say that he has a management team of appointed leaders but all they are is a group of 'yes men'. Typically, they are the biggest givers therefore they believe everything that Gene says. It is NOT biblical nor is it healthy.
Aug 11, 2010 06:04 AM
I do not attend the Gathering but know some that do. A few years back when we were praying about going there someone told us (not an "ex" but a current supportive member) that in the bylaws of the church it states basically "no Gene, no Gathering". If he goes the Gathering is no more. Plus everything is in his name. That totally gave us red flags therefore we did not continue to visit (among other reasons). I can't believe that is true. How could any group of people agree to that and how could anyone ask them to? So unbiblical. Does anyone out there know if this is actually true? We were told this by someone who loves the Gathering and was on the "inside" so we had/have no reason to think it was made up but I've always wondered if somehow it is wrong.
Aug 11, 2010 04:43 AM
Gene's blog says that 'great things are happening'. I swear, that's all you ever hear him say. I believe that he does not have the ability to believe things are the way that they are. It's pathological narcissism - very dangerous. He's begun to believe that all of the spin that he puts on everything is the actual truth. Not only that, he gets his staff to believe and support him in it and then it spreads to the congregation. Here's a good one: Bull**** - it starts in our pulpit, it spreads to our congregation and it's the only thing responsible for ruining christianity. How's that for a tagline ....
Aug 10, 2010 12:17 PM
I counted heads in the second service quickly. One section numbered 70 so that would equal around 300 for that service. That is a long ways from 1500 for both services.
Aug 10, 2010 09:29 AM
To the Tool that is bashing Pioneer and talking and taking recommendations from Mr. P Vick! You are the biggest idiot I have ever seen. I am not even going to try to expalin things to you cause I am sure you would not understand it anyway!
Aug 10, 2010 07:43 AM
Bobby's sermons are so great when Gene is gone or sitting there or walked out and not bothered to even listen to him.I wished Gene would leave the church and Bobby be our Pastor ! God knows that already ! I know there are others that have agreed with me. What a church we would be !! Amen.
Aug 09, 2010 05:10 PM
TOLD ON A HOMIE FROM WEST PARK IN A DRUG DEAL AND A DRUG DEAL GONE BAD
Aug 09, 2010 01:51 AM
What is he trying to do? Make her take the rap and weasel out of being responsible. What a Man!!!
Aug 08, 2010 12:51 PM
Prez, I love you. You always been good to me and treated me wit respect when you came through me and my babe house. Cant wait til your home and we can all spend some Q.T together. See you soon. Much love babes...Samantha xoxo
Aug 07, 2010 05:00 PM
Robert Vick has stated to TREC that Libby is the owner of both Fontaine Realty and Cabin Rentals
Aug 06, 2010 10:10 AM
The details listed in the link from the post above states that the gathering has between 1001 and 1500 people. Does anyone want to take a bet that the real number is closer to 500 or 600?
Aug 06, 2010 06:29 AM
I spoke with someone from the DA's office today. He was going to find out from Det. Hodges what was going on with the investigation. He told me he would be back with me the week of the 23rd. Please let us know what Det. Hodges tells you if you speak with her. Thanks
Aug 05, 2010 05:23 PM
Detective Hodges returned my call today. I was cutting the yard. And it was too late to call her back.
Aug 05, 2010 04:14 PM
The last three posts are definitely from the heart. Thanks so much for sharing that information with the rest of us. I am definitely one of the folks that he won't speak too. I even emailed April about my miracle last fall and she would not even respond to my message. But in church she says they love to talk to people and Gene would love to hear your story. The attendance is really down. I wonder who will have to take a pay cut.
Aug 04, 2010 08:23 AM
It would be nice if Det. Hodges would return telephone calls and tell people that.
Aug 03, 2010 06:21 PM
From the least to the greatest, all are greedy for gain; prophets and priests alike, all practice deceit. They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. 'Peace, peace they say, when there is no peace. Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when I punish them." says the Lord. Jer 6:13-15
Aug 03, 2010 03:43 PM
I was a member of The Gathering when it very first started at Southern Nights. I believe at that time Pastor Gene had a heart for God. Somewhere along the way he has forgotten this..but good luck saying that to him. He will just ignore you or say you are crazy. As long as you can tithe or like most of these posts say "drive fancy cars or wear expensive clothes" then he likes you and will talk to you. Other than that forget it! He doesn't care!! People this abuse has been going on for years now!! Are you just now catching on? What did it take? The $250K salary, the Italian Leather Shoes? Gene made $100K 7 years ago, which made him the highest paid Pastor in Sevier County. I was also part of the ministry...and to see what goes on behind closed doors would amaze you...trust me! If you ask anyone who has left there who will actually be honest with you, they will tell you its all a sham. As the Bible says...your sins will find you out! Thank goodness I was able to listen to my heart and know what Gene is doing is wrong and one day he will have to answer for that!
Aug 03, 2010 01:44 PM
I am fully aware of Gene's ways and do not concentrate on giving to his fund or the church. I know God well enough and he knows me well enough to understand I love the singers there and the good days that Gene talks about the Bible and not money or his shoes,clothes,dinners,trips. I know and trust the Lord will take care of Gene. Karen is a sweet woman and I do feel for her married to a man that has became money hungry and using the Lord's house to do it in. God will take care of him, just trust him to do it.
Aug 02, 2010 07:31 PM
I called a detective at the sheriff's department in my county north of Sevier County. I talked to a detective about the situation since we cannot get anyone in Sevier County to do their job. He said that this issue is a civil case. A lawyer is needed to handle the case and if the judge finds for the renter or renters the Vick will have to return the deposits plus pay court cost and lawyer fees. Now this sounds promising. Maybe Mr. Stapleton would represent the renters with the understanding his fee will come from the Vicks. I am hoping he will agree to that. I left a message with him to discuss this matter. My nephew is wreary of the ordeal but if this is possible I am sure he will want to help the other person on here for both of their causes.
Aug 02, 2010 08:28 AM
I called a detective at the sheriff's department in my county north of Sevier County. I talked to a detective about the situation since we cannot get anyone in Sevier County to do their job. He said that this issue is a civil case. A lawyer is needed to handle the case and if the judge finds for the renter or renters the Vick will have to return the deposits plus pay court cost and lawyer fees. Now this sounds promising. Maybe Mr. Stapleton would represent the renters with the understanding his fee will come from the Vicks. I am hoping he will agree to that. I left a message with him to discuss this matter. My nephew is wreary of the ordeal but if this is possible I am sure he will want to help the other person on here for both of their causes.
Aug 02, 2010 08:27 AM
Yes, her name is Self. How ironic!!! She needs the suffix to make it fit her personality perfectly. (ISH)
Aug 02, 2010 08:21 AM
My parents saw the Vicks over the weekend at the castle as it has been rented on regular basis,along with critter's Lodge. If the police had a warrant they could pick them up many day at the guard house as they enter. The only other acess is through private property owned by the Sharps. How can this man still serve as President of the Water department. On Facebook Libby is now using her maiden name which is Self.
Aug 02, 2010 08:17 AM
Taking Libby out for a low sodium dinner on our dime...
Aug 02, 2010 06:19 AM
I cannot believe it. I saw them again today. They were heading to Gatlinburg on a Sunday afternoon. This time they were in their white GMC truck.
Aug 01, 2010 04:07 PM
Does anyone know if the Goldsteins still go to the gathering?I heard they stopped.I met them in town one day and forgot to ask.My son was friends with Tony.
Aug 01, 2010 07:55 AM
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